I know the AMA offroad guy well. He is well aware of the issues. I've also spoken with Don McClure who is the PAOHVA exec director (IIRC). They are working this hard. I believe the #1 issue is ATVs pay into the funds for trails and motorcycles don't.Twist wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:38 pmI'm not very familiar with the priorities and capabilities of the AMA but I wonder if anyone has approached them to send a lobbyist/lawyer to these comment sessions to make a case for the two-wheel crowd? Seems like they could use some big numbers that they represent that should get more attention from people that won their election by a few hundred votes - which I bet is a lot of them.
Meh, I'm just spitballing here.
PA OHV action alert.
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Ken
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This is probably REAL Stupid BUT - I have a PA ATV Tag on my Polaris RZR that I got when I bought it years ago and keep renewing. This allows me to ride a limited number of places in PA such as near Michaux. I don't even remember what I had to do to get it. BUT - IF one were willing to go thru the process and cost of getting an ATV tag for ones off road MC would that give some access.
This is probably impossible because the regs for ATVs probably say things that would not allow a MC to get tagged.
This is probably impossible because the regs for ATVs probably say things that would not allow a MC to get tagged.
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Yes. PA state law currently does not allow for two wheelers (OHM) to use State lands. The above mentioned bill is another attempt to fix that.BigBird wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:27 pmThis is probably REAL Stupid BUT - I have a PA ATV Tag on my Polaris RZR that I got when I bought it years ago and keep renewing. This allows me to ride a limited number of places in PA such as near Michaux. I don't even remember what I had to do to get it. BUT - IF one were willing to go thru the process and cost of getting an ATV tag for ones off road MC would that give some access.
This is probably impossible because the regs for ATVs probably say things that would not allow a MC to get tagged.
The second issue is a bill developed by representative Gabler, bill #1706 that essentially recommends including OHM riding onto the state ATV trail systems.
Bruce
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Also from DVTR-
Riders,
Our friends at DVTR have started a petition to support (HB 1706) amending the current vehicle code to allow OHM access on DCNR public ATV trails.
Please sign this petition! We have to stand up and be heard if we want change!
The introduction of the Gabler bill (HB 1706) would amend Title 75 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes and provide a means to optionally register off-highway motorcycles, such as dual sports and enduros, with the DCNR for use on public ATV trails. Opening registration to OHMs will provide revenue for further trail development and maintenance, which translates to better trails and more riding opportunities for all, NOT just motorcyclists. Each of us can make a difference!
Here’s how you can help:
We urge all riders in support of the Gabler bill to firstly sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/pennsylvania-s ... orcyclists
Secondly, reach out to your local legislators. Explain why this
legislation is important to you and kindly implore them to support HB 1706. You can locate your local legislators here.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/le ... e=suppress
Please pass this along to all your riding friends. With enough support we can make a change.
Bruce
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made a $25 donationLaoch wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:15 amAlso from DVTR-
Riders,
Our friends at DVTR have started a petition to support (HB 1706) amending the current vehicle code to allow OHM access on DCNR public ATV trails.
Please sign this petition! We have to stand up and be heard if we want change!
The introduction of the Gabler bill (HB 1706) would amend Title 75 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes and provide a means to optionally register off-highway motorcycles, such as dual sports and enduros, with the DCNR for use on public ATV trails. Opening registration to OHMs will provide revenue for further trail development and maintenance, which translates to better trails and more riding opportunities for all, NOT just motorcyclists. Each of us can make a difference!
Here’s how you can help:
We urge all riders in support of the Gabler bill to firstly sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/pennsylvania-s ... orcyclists
Secondly, reach out to your local legislators. Explain why this
legislation is important to you and kindly implore them to support HB 1706. You can locate your local legislators here.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/le ... e=suppress
Please pass this along to all your riding friends. With enough support we can make a change.
Ken
Die young as late as possible, remember who you were before the world told you how it should be. -- Barry Morris
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Signed the petition and made my $25 donation. Glad to see some lobbying effort getting organized on this.
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Sigh. change.org won't allow access through a vpn:(
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Signed and kicked in $30.00. I take it the donation is used to advertise the petition in hopes of getting more signatures, is any of it used to help lobby for the cause? I was just wondering.
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