DAMN Riders - No rules, Just ride!

Bucho wrote:Short of anything crazy coming up I think you can safely put me on the "in" list.
I have the dualsport bike for this. The question is which wheelset do I run?
At the moment my 17"/motard set has some very unmotard like TKC80s which are probably about perfect for this. Hopefully they will last till September. I was planning on putting some Conti sumo rubber on when they are worn out.

My other wheelset is more offroady and I hate to wear them down with road riding.

Moved to "IN"!

TKC80's (even bald ones) will be a great choice, I used to run a lot of those. I am currently running the Pirelli XCMH but the Honda likes eating through em in just a thousand miles.

Kyler wrote:it is WAY too early to commit, but it is on the DAMN calendar. This might make a great outing (except for the last day) on the Adventure FZ (with some TKC80 tires).

Added to 'Hoping"...

You guys....hotels and bars...is this an adventure ride or a Cruzer ride.

Dispersed camping is permitted in most areas of the ANF.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/alleghen ... 4&actid=34

And....free camping in all PA state forests.

Just saying....

dirtygrunt wrote: You guys....hotels and bars...is this an adventure ride or a Cruzer ride.

The title said "Dual-Sport" ride. "Adventure" is what happens along the way. I think you have been hanging out on ADV too much...

dirtygrunt wrote:

Dispersed camping is permitted in most areas of the ANF.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/alleghen ... 4&actid=34

And....free camping in all PA state forests.

Just saying....

You (and anybody else who is interested) are welcome to do all the camping your hearts desire; its your trip too so make it what you want. For me, after a good hot meal that someone else made for me, and a few beers; a hot shower and soft bed at a motel is what is planned.

SJ

I will be heading up to the ANF on the 18th of Sept. I will be pre-riding Sunday's event on Saturday plus doing a joy ride. I am inviting anyone who would like to join me on Saturday the 19th. Sunday is limited to 40 riders and that is the total for the two groups. We are having the day on the trail to demonstrate to the DCNR that ATVs and Dirt Bikes can share without conflict. The cost is free but each rider will need a trail pass. We are starting from the Rangers Station and passes can be purchased the day of the event. After our sit down session we will go to the trail head and ride in two separate groups to a remote lunch and discussion. Lunch will be free as well and after lunch is over we will trail ride back to the cars. We will show everyone highlights of the system as well as the quality of trail maintenance. The ride will be 30 miles in length and will last until 2:00. After that I plan on riding until Supper time. At the end I have the official agenda for Sunday at the Trail Summit. If anyone would like to join me on Monday or Tuesday you are welcome to do so.

This is a great place to ride in Pennsylvania and plenty of dirt roads connect the 4 riding areas. My favorite place to stay is Westline Inn.

http://www.westlineinn.com/

2015 Greenways and Trails Summit: Off-Highway Vehicle Workshop
Sunday, September 20, 2015

Target Audience: OHV trail users

Workshop Capacity: 40 attendees (30 ATV limit)

Location: Allegheny National Forest: Marienville Ranger District Office
131 Smokey Lane; Marienville, PA 16239
and
Allegheny National Forest

Workshop Leads: Eric Bruggeman
PA Trails Advisory Committee: ATV Representative
and
Environmental Specialist
Skelly and Loy, Inc.

Rob Fallon
District Ranger
US Forest Service, Allegheny National Forest: Marienville District

Denny Mann
Educational Training Coordinator
PA Off-Highway Vehicle Association

Speakers: Eric Bruggeman
PA Trails Advisory Committee: ATV Representative
and
Environmental Specialist
Skelly and Loy, Inc.

Rob Fallon
District Ranger
US Forest Service, Allegheny National Forest: Marienville District

Denny Mann
Educational Training Coordinator
PA Off-Highway Vehicle Association

Mark Conn (TBD)
Forest Trails Planner/Coordinator
US Forest Service, Allegheny National Forest

Joe Langianese (TBD)
Trails Specialist
US Forest Service, Allegheny National Forest

Jason Haberberger
Law Enforcement Officer
US Forest Service, Allegheny National Forest
 
Draft Schedule (as of April 28, 2015):

8:00 am – 9:30 am REGISTRATION
Location: Allegheny National Forest: Marienville Ranger District Office
131 Smokey Lane; Marienville, PA 16239
Lead: Marienville Ranger District Office Staff
Rob Fallon
*Coffee (regular/decaf) and granola bars and/or fruit should be provided

9:30 am – 10:30 am OHV BREAKOUT SESSION
Location: Allegheny National Forest: Marienville Ranger District Office
131 Smokey Lane; Marienville, PA 16239
Lead: Eric Bruggeman
Rob Fallon
Denny Mann
Speakers/Topic: Eric Bruggeman
Rob Fallon
Others (TBD)
*Meet and greet, overview of workshop objectives, presentation on new OHV laws and regulations
Room Setup: Rows of Chairs (Marienville District Office has projector and screen if needed)

10:30 am – 11:15 TRAVEL TO SITE, UNLOAD, QUEUE VEHICLES

11:15 am – 12:45 pm RIDE (break into two groups)
Location(s): TBD (starting point for each group could be two different locations, each group would meet up at one location for lunch)
Lead: Rob Fallon
Speakers/Topic: Rob Fallon and Curt Bowley
Eric Bruggeman and Joe Langianese
*Stops will highlight areas of ANF OHV trail management

12:45 pm – 2:00 pm LUNCH and ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
Location: TBD (ideally a location with restrooms, but “bathroom breaks” could be made along the morning ride, another idea is renting a porta potty)
Lead: Eric Bruggeman
Speakers/Topic: Eric to be responsible for taking notes and pictures
? to manage pickup/distribution of lunches
? to lead roundtable/brainstorming discussion
*Bagged lunches and cold beverages to be provided on trail
2:00 pm – RIDE at will!
Allegheny National Forest is open twenty-four hours. Daily permits are eligible until 12:00 am, September 21, 2015, and annual permits are eligible until December 31, 2015. Restrooms are located at the Marienville District Office and various trailheads including: Rocket John Trailhead, Marienville Trailhead, and Timberline Trailhead. The Pigs Ear and Pine Camp Trailheads don’t have restrooms). The Marienville District Office closes at 4:30 pm.
Location: Allegheny National Forest
*Individuals can be provided maps, which they can use to explore their own route.

Denny,

Thanks for the info. From what I am understanding, your ride is all on the trails? Would your ride on Saturday be doable\ fun for guys on big adventure bikes? For the guys on the smaller DS bikes I am planning on doing the Mariensville bike loop so the bigger bike guys will want an alternative for this day.

For those interested, this should give you an example of what to expect on the bike loop. The harder\rocky part starts around 1:15
or this

And here is an example of the Timberline side; much easier. I would take my Tiger on it if I had a 50/50 tire and did not own the Honda:

SJ

J - click edit and you can see how I fixed your video urls.

the Timberline side looks quite doable on the Adventure FZ ...

I'm still on the fence for this one. I sort of want to do the ADV Moto Rally because it's in my back yard and I won't be away from home more than a day so my wife will be happier, but this DS event sounds far more fun. I will be using my KLR, but I have some new Kenda K760's for it that I can use on this ride. I will need a big bike go-around for those trails though.

Sunday and Saturday in the morning will be the same Timberline trails because for the event on Sunday I plan on making it fun for everyone. After the work is done pre-riding Sunday's even route I'm up for anything.

No Marienville Bike Loop is not big bike friendly at all.

Bummer, I'll be in that hell hole known as SOCAL. Sounds like a great trip, you'ins have fun! At least I will have got to go to Colorado and ride 3 weeks before this event!